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Episode 7: Batteries and Safety
Lithium Polymer also known as LiPo is by far the most common today as they have a high watt/weight rating and can deliver a lot of current so we’re going to just discuss these.
Important parameters:
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Number of Cells
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Capacity
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C Rating
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Discharging
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Charging
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Saftey
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Number of cells
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Determines how many volts the battery will have. 3.7V (nominal) per cell. 1, 2 or 3 cell (or 11.1V) is the most common in beginner planes.
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Capacity
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How much energy that is stored in the battery. Usually written in milliampere hours or mAh for short.
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Milli means a 1000th of. So a 2000mAh battery is the same as a 2Ah battery
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If you draw 2 Ampere through that battery it is going to last for 1 hour.
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If you draw 1 Ampere it’s going to last 2 hours
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If you draw 4 Ampere it’s going to last ½ hour or 30 minutes or 1800 seconds
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C Rating
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Is how much power the battery delivers without dropping too much in voltage
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How many Ampere it can deliver is dependent on the capacity of the battery
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To calculate how much it can deliver you take the C rating and multiply it by the capacity rating
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If you have a 1000mAh battery and a 20C rating that is 20 times 1 which is 20 ampere.
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There are normally 2 different C ratings. One for continuous discharge and one for burst, which means how much it can deliver for a very short time (10 seconds)
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Discharging Your Battery - Do not discharge to much!
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LiPo batteries do not like to be fully discharged. They are destroyed!!!
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Fully discharged cell is 3.0V - Never go below this!!
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If you discharge more than the battery rating it can catch fire!!!
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The 80% rule applies to batteries as well! Never discharge a battery more than 80% of it’s rated capacity. If you have a 1000mAh battery your should never discharge it more than 800mAh.
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Charging Your Battery
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Get a charger that is capable of displaying how many mAh that is put back into the pack.
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Time your flights. If you fly for 5 minutes and then charge the battery and put 500mAh back into the battery your plane draws 100mAh per minute. Which means you can fly for 8 minutes max.
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Charge at 1C
BATTERY SAFETY
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If you have a deformed battery from a crash
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Store, and charge, in a fireproof container; never in your model.
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Charge in a protected area devoid of combustibles.
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Never leave the charging process unattended.
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In the event of damage from crashes, etc, carefully remove to a safe place for at least a half hour to observe. Physically damaged cells could erupt into flame and after sufficient time to ensure safety, should be discarded in accordance with the instructions which came with the batteries. Never attempt to charge a cell with physical damage, regardless of how slight.
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Always use chargers designed for the specific purpose, preferably having a fixed setting for your particular pack. Many fires occur in using selectable/adjustable chargers improperly set. Never attempt to charge Lithium cells with a charger which is not specifically designed for charging Lithium cells. Never use chargers designed for Nickel Cadmium batteries.
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Use charging systems that monitor and control the charge state of each cell in the pack. Unbalanced cells can lead to disaster if it permits overcharge of a single cell in the pack. If the batteries show any sign of swelling, discontinue charging and remove them to a safe place outside as they could erupt into flames.
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Most important: NEVER PLUG IN A BATTERY AND LEAVE IT TO CHARGE UNATTENDED OVERNIGHT.
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Do not attempt to make your own battery packs from individual cells.
Choosing the right battery:
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Manufacturer recommendation
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Internet / Forums / google
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Connectors - Make sure they are the same or you need to know how to solder
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A bigger battery will let you fly for longer but will also impact the performance of your airplane
Links to useful articles:
HorizonHobby-BeginnerSeries
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Thanks for the video. I know a lot more about batteries then I did before.
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One thing I have noticed though is that charging rate has a definite impact on flight time. If I charge at 2C or 3C the battery provides less flight time than if I charge it at 1C. In fact if I charge the battery at approximately 0.8C I get nearly 25% better flight time.
For example, I charge my 3S 1300mAh 25C Nano-Tech at 2.6Ah (2C), I get about 8 minutes of flight with liberal throttle. If I charge the same battery at 1.0Ah (~0.8C) I get about 10 minutes of similar flight.
This is consistent across the range of batteries I use, ranging from 850mah to 3300mah.
I have managed to puff a Nano-Tech (3S 5000mAh 35C) but that was in a 1/8 scale truggy that was geared too steep in HOT weather AND I drained it to ~3.0/cell. Even that battery hasn't shown signs of lost capacity despite it's puffiness but I only charge it at 0.8C - 1.0C for safety.
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Where are the battery calculator links you mentioned in the episode???
The AMA link is to their home page...?
You guys are busy I know. Thank you in advance for fixing the problem.
Great job, easily the best and most complete and informative lipo article/episode :) on the web today!!! Keep `em coming
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The best way to discharge a battery for disposal is to use automobile taillights. Solder your favorite connector to some wire, solder the other end of the wire to one (for up to 3 cells) or two (for up to 6 cells) taillights in series, plug your battery into the newly created discharger for a few hours. Then check the battery voltage to ensure it's close to 0, cut off the connector, strip the wires and twist them together to ensure that any bounceback voltage goes away, and discard the pack.
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If you upgrade to a bigger charger (and you will, believe me) you'll need a more powerful supply. The one I use is an HP DPS-600PB server power supply - 12.5V/47A. These are available on eBay for around $20 shipped. Using this supply does require some soldering skills, but gives you a lot of headroom to either use a bigger charger or multiple small chargers simultaneously.
I recommend reading http://www.tjinguytech.com/charging-how-tos/shopping for a lot more detail on selecting a charger and power supply.
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And if a BEC calls for 1 AMP can I use a 3 amp lipo battery?
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The battery should be able to deliver 25*3,7=92,5 amps that means about 23A for each motor.
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Turnigy 1000mAh 3S 25C Lipo Pack
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Mike
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